Curse

Reverend Jekyll · Feb 07, 2006, 07:18 PM // 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell

I don't even use a weapon when I farm Griffons and Hydras. Here is my build.

1-Blessed Aura
2-Mending
3-Essence Bond
4-Protective Spirit
5-Healing Breeze
6-Reversal of Fortune
7-Shield of Judgement
8-Zealots Fire

My attributes are Healing 13, Smiting 15, Protection 9, Divine 9

When I step outside I activate 1,2 and 3. Just before stepping into the agro circle I fire 8, 4 and 5. When I am surrounded by all available enemy I hit SOJ, then every 3 seconds activate 4,5 and 6 until everything is dead. Instead of fighting back I am picking up drops, in case I get killed unexpectedly.

If there is a boss in the group I target him and wand him so he dies with the rest. My secondary is Me, and I use Mantra of Resolve against enemies who can interrupt. In that case I replace Reversal of Fortune.

BTW Reversal of Fortune is a great cheap skill. It offers health protection, recharges fast and costs only 5 to use. With ZF on it is a cost-effective way to damage a large group.

That's pretty much the exact build I use. On my monk...

I think the debate between Watchful Spirit and Mending is really how much you want to put into Healing Prayers. Watchful Spirit always gives you +2 regen, regardless of how much you put into HP.

dont feel no pain · Feb 07, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

zealots fire O_- emm i dont see that fitting so well (on plastic heads build)

WolflordUlrik · Feb 07, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuxA

Me NoFat: On average, how long does it take to kill each Griffon? It takes me and my Sword/Riposte build around 15 seconds per Griffon, and I'd be very interested to know of (and learn) another build that can go faster than that.

15sec PER griffon, you might as well be a runner...
Did u guys even read my build?

plastichead · Feb 07, 2006, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

zealots fire O_- emm i dont see that fitting so well (on plastic heads build)

thats why i spam vigorous while glads is up, but i really wish i could replace it with a more effective damage dealer.

Sab · Feb 07, 2006, 07:45 PM // 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolflordUlrik

15sec PER griffon, you might as well be a runner...
Did u guys even read my build?

Ahh I missed that. I've never thought about using SS as a Warrior primary for some reason. Gonna cap SS and give that a try thanks.

Sk8tborderx · Feb 08, 2006, 04:27 AM // 04:27

@WolflordUlrik - Doesn't mop make then scatter now?

WolflordUlrik · Feb 08, 2006, 05:34 AM // 05:34

Yes but only if they get hit by it twice within 2-3 secs
Cyclone is every 4. The MOP'd griffon if not your primary target.
Pre nerf i would make 4-5 min runs. With MoP not being AoE its 10-12 sec and ANY group of griffons is leveled. I didnt need bonnettis back then but now i do and the run takes 7 mins 20-25 secs to bring down the griffs. Its great because cyclone does like 1-3dmg +34 so all the griffs except the boss and MoP'd one drop at the same time.

Sk8tborderx · Feb 08, 2006, 09:30 AM // 09:30

With the riposte build I use takes about the same time to complete the run. The fastest build I have ever used was w/r apply poison/cyclone axe/vim build. Drop eoe and pull the griffons and after 1 dies the rest go down right away.

WolflordUlrik · Feb 09, 2006, 01:13 AM // 01:13

A similar build to that is the sever artery, gash, desperation blow, then epidemic.

.killjoy · Feb 09, 2006, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Yes, 55 monks own griffions and hydras but the problem is if azures get you with knock down you wil have no time to cast.. anything.. so i stay with hydras and desert griffions

Me NoFat · Feb 11, 2006, 07:36 AM // 07:36

Results are in. S8* can post the build he used it he wants. My build proved to be faster. I do not judge speed per griffon...I judge speed per group (10-20) of griffons or monitors. I believe that I have tried every build mentioned above and I am positive that my build kills faster. I would like to point out that S8*'s build is more versitile. With his build you can clean up griffons and monitors then head over and take out the hydras without changing your build so if that floats your boat the I recommend his build.

My build: (not really mine I am sure that I picked this up here or modified one to fit my needs)

Heal Sig
Cyclone Axe
Open*
Open*
Bons Def
Glads Def
Live Vic
Mending

* I fill the open slots with dismember and exec strike for killing bosses and cleaning up.

attribs:

I am not posting mine. Just know that you should meet your axe req to get the extra area damage from cyclone spamming. I also recommend high tactics so that glads lasts longer.

I use a sup axe, sup tactics, and sup str

Health is never an issue once you get the idea of always having a stance up. With liv vic on and mending you will never drop health below 60% so there is no need to fill the open slots with healing skills. Just us Glads when it is up and then spam cyclone + bons def when it is recharging.

I can hear some of you screaming *BS* my build is faster. If you really think so then just message me in game and prove it please because I would love to speed up my farming. Make sure you know how and have used my build before you message me though. Saves us both time.

lord of shadow · Feb 11, 2006, 12:18 PM // 12:18

build i use, and its pretty fast is
cyclone
bonnetti
sprint
glads def
balth's aura
mending
live vicariously
vigarous spirit

8 axe (thats the req of my axe)
around 11 smite 13 tactics
cyclone gets adrenaline for bonnetti's
glads does damage for a while while cycloneing, then use bonnetti followed by balth's aura THIS STOPS THE DEVOURERS INTERRUPTING IT enchants on all the time, sprint speeds up the run

Sk8tborderx · Feb 11, 2006, 01:08 PM // 13:08

As Me NoFat has said, his build does kill faster. We tested both builds on the minos in the elona mission so we are sure the results are accurate. If you just want to kill a lot faster then go with his build, if you want to be able to go solo something else without having to change your build you can go with mine. Here is what I use:

Armor:
Full Glads , Ascalon Helm

Shield/Weapon:
Any sword/Malinons shield

Attributes:
8 heal
13 strength (+3 from runes)
16 tactics (+1 helm +3 from runes)

Skills:
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Glads Defence
Watch Yourself
Dolyak Signet
Healing Breeze
Mending
Balthazars Spirit

Me NoFat · Feb 11, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx

As Me NoFat has said, his build does kill faster. We tested both builds on the minos in the elona mission so we are sure the results are accurate. If you just want to kill a lot faster then go with his build, if you want to be able to go solo something else without having to change your build you can go with mine. Here is what I use:

Armor:
Full Glads , Ascalon Helm

Shield/Weapon:
Any sword/Malinons shield

Attributes:
8 heal
13 strength (+3 from runes)
16 tactics (+1 helm +3 from runes)

Skills:
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Glads Defence
Watch Yourself
Dolyak Signet
Healing Breeze
Mending
Balthazars Spirit

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Happy that you posted that. There are advantage to both builds to be sure. I also feel that both builds give you a good foundation to start playing with your own farming builds if you are new to it. Riposte and Cyclone are staples of Sword and Axe farming.

i like video games · Feb 23, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02

does anybody have a good build for w/m without any elite skills?

sigried · Feb 23, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

My personal build is

1.cyclone xe
2.Bonetties defense
3.Glads def
4.Vigorus spirit
5.executioner strike
6.live vicarusly
7.Mending
8.sprint

Ok for grifons i start from augry rock.
as soon as you start use mendin, wait until it recharges up to 20 again,and then use live vicarously, you will only have 15 energy left.

after this as soon as you engage enemy activate glads defense and vigorus spirit, after this use cyclone axe, once done this activate the bonetis def and wait until recover energy, keep doing this until glads def recharges and hit glad def followed by vigorous spirit.

healin 8-9
stenth-8-9
axe mastery 10
tactis all the rest of the points you have

very easy you just need practice you can olso use this with trolls slaying outside drogs forge